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#41 Ciklo

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 09:23 AM

Jure negde skrenuo sa zvanične trase, mada iz intervjua nisam razumeo zašto i koje su posledice. Deni ga polako sustiže. n:bicycle

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 10:43 AM

Cudno je i takodje sta nalaze kao interesantne dogadjaje za pratiti.
Recimo Team Can Be Venture nisu NIJEDNOM pomenuli !? [-X
A ljudi su inace invalidi, i voze tricikle koji se pogone rukama, i imajuci to u vidu prave veoma solidne prosecne brzine.
Ali ni reci o njima. Tek par slika, i to uglavnom sa starta.
Non stop kenjaju u nekakvim "ciljevima", donacijama i ostalim dobrotvornim glupostima, i razlozima za ucestvovanje u trci,
a njih,i njihovu borbu i podvig niko ni da pomene .. sramota [-X


Sramota! I to mi je Amerika... ](*,) Mislim, ako budu izgurali u 12 dana trku, alal im vera! =D> =D>

Jure negde skrenuo sa zvanične trase, mada iz intervjua nisam razumeo zašto i koje su posledice.


Pretpostavljam da ce opet pasti neko kaznjavanje. #-o
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Posted 24 June 2009 - 01:47 PM

Sramota! I to mi je Amerika... ](*,) Mislim, ako budu izgurali u 12 dana trku, alal im vera! =D> =D>


Land of the equal... Nego, nešto mislim, kad bi sebi čovek napravio takav bicikl, ne bi mu trebala nikakva teretana, za hiljadu km bi imao ruke k'o Popaj.
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Posted 24 June 2009 - 03:59 PM

Nego, nešto mislim, kad bi sebi čovek napravio takav bicikl, ne bi mu trebala nikakva teretana, za hiljadu km bi imao ruke k'o Popaj.


Upravo tako :) ima ljudi koji upravo u tu svrhu koriste handcycle.
Pricaju da je to jaaaaako tezak posao :)

Jedan od proizvodjaca http://www.intrepide... ... tions.html

Samo $1600 sto i nije mnogo kad se uzme u obzir koliko je to mala proizvodnja.

Inace koliko shvatam oni su zajedno sa svim cetvoroclanim timovima, te imaju samo 8 dana do cilja,
ako im slucajno nije produzeno vreme na neki nacin.
Ako imaju samo 8 znaci da im je potrebna prosecna brzina od najmanje 15,6mph, odnosno skoro 25km/h
Vec su presli Stenovite planine i sada su u ravnom Kansasu, i trenutna prosecna brzina im je 14,62mph, odnosno 23,3kmh
Sudeci po prosecnim brzinama po vremenskim stanicama,
u pocetku su krenuli lagano, a sada polako pojacavaju tempo, te se nadam da ce biti dovoljno brzi.
Inace cak i ako usledi diskfalifikacija, trkac moze da nastavi ako zeli, i zavrsi trku, ali se nece smatrati "official finisher"
neko nezvanican.
Jedan solista upravo to cini, posle diskfalifikacije usled pada prosecne brzine ispod 10mph
Svakako veliki je uspeh samo precu tu razdaljinu na iskljucivo rucni pogon!

Go Team Can be Venture ! =D>


Na celu trke su se stvari usijale, jer je Wyss tek 4 minuta! iza Robiča na poslednjoj kontroli (TS 41) =D>

Kod 4 clanih timova RANS vodi ispred Surfing USA za oko 2 sata :)
8 clani Team ViaSat je 7,5 sati ispred RANS-a te nema sanse da prestignu jos jedan 8 clani tim,
ali izmedju imaju 3 solo vozaca koji mogu da posluze kao zecevi ;)
Kako u timu kazu "it's wabbit season ! " :D
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Biciklista 8 clanog tima Donate Life - Give hope se osvrce da vidi ko to namerava da ga prestigne

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A zatim kod timskog kombija RANS dobija gromoglasan aplauz i najvijanje od tima, dok sledeci vozac tima 803 ceka na kolegu kojeg
je RASN upravo obisao :) to je fer play duh!
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Posted 24 June 2009 - 11:59 PM

Robič i Wyss u istom kadru !! snimljeno negde danas popodne.
Na poslednjoj kontrolnoj stanici TS43 je Wyss bio iza njega 3 minuta, i ima ukupnu prosecnu brzinu manju za samo 0.01 mph :)
Jure je vec stigao na TS43 pre jedno pola sata, ali Wyss jos ne. Ili rezultati kasne, ili je Wyss odlucio da dremne.


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Prelepe slike Kanzasa - rekapitulacija 4 dana

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A evo kako funkcionise Team Type 1 - full TT voznja i smena na svakih 5 kilometara

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 01:58 AM

AAAAND THE WINNER IS .... Dani Wyss of Switzerland !!!!!!! =D> =D> =D> =D>

8 dana 5 sati i 45 minuta ! prosecna brzina 24,44km/h =D> =D> =D>

Kao sto je vec javljano, Dani je sustigao Jureta neki dan, i sve vreme su vozili sa tek kojim minutom razlike.
Ranije danas, oko podneva po tamosnjem vremenu je Jure poceo da pravi razliku, i napravio cak nekih skoro 20 minuta,
ali su onda obojica upali u saobracajnu guzvu, jer su na trasi bili neki radovi, a dok baja drzi stop znak oni ne smeju da prodju,
te se sva prednost koju je napravio veoma brzo istopila, tako da su malo kansije na TS Mt.Airy stigli u istom minutu.
Mt.Airy je tacka gde svaki trkac koji ima kaznenog vremena mora da stane i saceka da to vreme prodje.
Kako je Jure nakupio citavih sat vremena , jer su zahvaljujuci neslaganju Route Book-a i GPSa opet pogresno skrenuli negde,
i cak duzim putem od zvanicnog stigli na kontrolnu tacku, gde im je dana opcija da se ili vrate, ili dobiju 30 minuta kazne,
a kako je 30 minuta bilo manje nego sto je bilo potrebno za povratak,pristali su na 30 minuta kazne.
Cim su na Mt.Airy stigli u isto vreme, odmah je bilo jasno da su sanse za sustizanje Svajcarca veoma male, skoro nikakve.
Tipa da ako Wyssa udari grom dok bude isao ka cilju, Jure ce pobediti ;)

I tako .. svaka cast obojici ! =D> =D> =D> =D>


Sto se timova tice, Surferi su imali nekakvu nezgodu, naime jednog trkaca je udario auto,
odnosno pokosio ga s boka,
a prica se da je to bio auto nekog od timova.
Sta se tacno desilo niko ne prica, samo su ovi odlucili da odustanu od trke, a ne da se lavoski bore sa trkacem manje, a mogli su.
Cudni si vam ti surferi ;) utegnuti, nabildovani,i lepo opremljeni i obuceni, ali kad je trebalo stisnuti petlju i nastavi borbu i zadrzati pozciiju, oni odustali .. taaaa :roll:

Team RANS je udario po pedalama i povecao prosecnu brzinu, sa ciljem da ostvare sta su zacrtali, novi recumbent record.
Imaju skoro 5 sati prednosti u odnosu da na drugoplasirani 4clani tim, Strong Heart, koji je bio tik iza Surfera u trenutku kada su odustali.
Sve sto umem da kazem je bravo! =D>


Toliko za danas :)


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Posted 26 June 2009 - 06:40 AM

Slovenac odustao iz protesta.
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Posted 26 June 2009 - 11:29 AM

Jes, odusto :( mada mislim da je vise zbog toga sto nije mogao da podnese cinjenicu da su za**ali stvar, i da ce de bude drugi,
nego sto je to iz nekog protesta.

Posada je dobro znala da je Road Book taj po kome se skrece, a NE Gps file ! to sto nisu pratili kako treba, sad palcaju..

Sad dal su drugi isto gresili, a nisu dobili kaznu, to je moguce, jer stalne kontrole nema, te kad pogresis neko treba da te prijavi,
ili npr ako se iz kakvog snimka ili slike jasno vidi da si zgresio, ide kazna.
Ali kad na kontrolnu tacku stignes iz pogresnog pravca i to vidi kontrola, sta tu ima da se prijavljuje ;) janso ko dan da su zeznuli.
Ako nista drugo, bar nije ispalo da mu je falilo onih 15 minuta koje je dobio za nedolicno ponasanje (pisanje na ilici, koje je u Kaliforniji prekrsaj koji se placa $270 a mogu i da te prevedu,a zamisli da ga je pajkan priveo umesto sto ga je prijavio za kaznu!! :lol: )
Mislim zamisli naslov "izgubio trku zbog pisanja!" :lol:

Inace Road Book je strasna stvar. Ona varijnata raskrsce r-32 32,2 milje posle raskrsca r-31, skreni desno.
Tako da navigator mora non stop da prati sta pise tamo, prati kilometrazu i resetuje je ne svakom raskrscu (i mora da bude precizna!)
i jos sve to da poredi sa GPS fajlom koji imaju.
GPS fajl koji se dobija od organizatora nije zvanican "dokument" po kojem se vozi, to je samo sugestija,
jer on ne mora da ukljucuje poslednje promene u trasi, zbog npr radova na putu i sl.
Sto je bezveze. Ako mogu da sve to pisu tamo u knjigu, mogu to i na gps track isto da ubace, a mozda je to i laksi posao! al hebiga ..

Nista, cirkus ide dalje, i prvi 4clani tim, Team RANS treba na cilju ocekivati nakako oko ponoci po nasem vremenu.
Bice prilicno tesno sa obaranjem rekorda izgleda!


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Posted 26 June 2009 - 11:48 AM

Nije mi jasno, kako se pored tolike pratnje ipak dogodilo da nekog tresnu kola? n:blackeye A ovo sa full TT-om je bas cool, mada mnogo posla tu ima, jer se vozaci smenjuju na kratko. =D>
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Posted 26 June 2009 - 10:50 PM

Znamo svi onu naradnu "ko izgubi ima pravo da se ljuti" ali ovo je vec ozbiljno, citajte sa je Jure imao da kaze.
Ipak je to bilo iz protesta izgleda.

Many of you are wondering why I stopped racing at time station 51 of this years’s Race Across America, RAAM.

I have won RAAM four times and always followed all rules and procedures, I am proud of that and know that I am the best racer in RAAM history. This year I was first at all 51 times stations from Oceanside to Mt. Airy, Maryland and was leading the race for 2967 miles.

The race organizers assessed three penalties to me and my team for a total of 60 minutes. None of these penalties gave me any advantage to be faster or gain any unfair advantage. The first was assessed even before the start because I had to pee and did so in a private matter near the starting line. Apparently an ambitious policeman saw me and reported this to the race organizer who assessed the first 15 minute penalty before I even got on my bike.

The second one was assessed to my team on interstate 10 in the night of the California desert. I was held up by a slower rider from another division for almost 30 miles on the intestate where it is not allowed to pass other vehicles. Then an official vehicle arrived on the course and talked to that slower rider. My team’s pace car got some visuals signal that we understood as a clear indication to pass the slower rider, we did so and to our surprise a second penalty of 15 minutes was served by the same official about 2 hours later.

The third penalty was a result of a navigational mistake of my crew near Bloomington, Indiana. They followed the route from RAAM 2008 which is 6 miles longer, more difficult and had lots of traffic. It slowed me for about one hour and on top of that, race officials assessed a third penalty of 30 minutes for a total of 1 hour.

With this handicap of questionable penalties I rode my fastest RAAM ever always staying ahead of my nearest competitor Dani Wyss who was riding the race of his life. At this point, I would like to congratulate him on a plan well executed and his great achievements of keeping my pace.

However Wyss and his team were not subject to the same rules and regulations as my team and myself were. Wyss and his team were not assessed any penalties. We have shown clear video evidence to the race officials of consistent infractions of Wyss and his team nothing was done by the race organizers.

The race organization ignored infractions that clearly made Wyss race faster on a consistent basis. These infractions include:



- Running red lights

- Turning right at red lights and immediately crossing to the left

- Running stop signs

- Not stopping at the mandatory stop for racers at TS 51

- Feeding the racer at red lights

- Aiding the racer from the pace car leaning out the window

- Inappropriate behavior of crew

- Caravaning



None of these observed infractions that made Wyss and his team ride a faster race were acted upon by the race officials with giving at least some penalties. You can see videos that were all made in less than a 12 hour period of some of these infraction on YouTube and more will follow in the next few days.

Most of these relatively small benefits when looked at individually add up to several hours of benefits if consistently implemented over 8 days and 3000 miles of racing. The race officials did not act upon these infractions and as such did not ensure a consistent and fair race.

“I have been involved in sports for almost 30 years as athlete and coach and as such have lots of tolerance to application of fairness in sports. However what was displayed by the RAAM race officials during this year’s RAAM goes far beyond anything that is acceptable. The race officials crossed this line when RAAM officials including Perry Stone’s media crew saw Wyss run a red light in West Virgina on Day 7 of the race – again without any consequences.

While Jure and Dani Wyss were riding together, I observed Dani Wyss attacking Jure immediately after he had a flat tire and had to stop. This is against any established and practiced sportsmanship in cycling.

We tried to bring fairness to the race but the entire team was ignored by the RAAM race officials. Our clear message to them by stopping our race in first place at time station 51 is that it is unacceptable to mistreat a four time champion in the way they did.

I must sadly say that the treatment Jure received from the RAAM race organizers during this race is the biggest disappointment in my career as sportsman and coach.”

Uros Velepec, crew chief Team Jure Robic and head coach of Slovenian Biathlon Olympic Team.

I am very proud of my achievement of again being the fastest rider during the entire race and would like to thank my crew for their relentless support and positive spirit. Last but not least I thank all my sponsors for their generous support and my fans for their encouragement.

I will be available for an online press conference at http://www.jurerobic.net at 2000 Central European Time today June 26. 2009. See you then.


Jure Robič


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Posted 26 June 2009 - 10:52 PM

Nije mi jasno, kako se pored tolike pratnje ipak dogodilo da nekog tresnu kola? n:blackeye



Pa trike je u tome da ga je tresnuo kombi drugog tima, kada ga je clan tog tima obisao, kombi je normalno krenuo za njim,
i kazu samo je smoto udesno i pokosio ga ..
Kako sta, niko ne prica, osim da je to eto cista nesreca ..
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Posted 27 June 2009 - 12:38 AM

[quote name="Trajkociklista"]30 miles on the intestate where it is not allowed to pass other vehicles[/quote="Trajkociklista"]

Daaaaaaaaajjjjjjjjj!!!!! #-o Izem ti propise...


[quote name="Trajkociklista"]navigational mistake[/quote="Trajkociklista"]

Biće mi lakše kad me GPS sledeći put zavali negde desno od Albukerkija.

[quote name="Trajkociklista"]Turning right at red lights and immediately crossing to the left[/quote="Trajkociklista"]

Čekajbre, loše sročeno ovo. Prolazak kroz crveno bez prolaska kroz crveno ide uslovno desno, (nedozvoljeno) polukružno pred raskrsnicom, desno. Gde je tu levo? :mrgreen:
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Posted 27 June 2009 - 12:57 AM

Turning right at red lights and immediately crossing to the left[/quote="Trajkociklista"]

Čekajbre, loše sročeno ovo. Prolazak kroz crveno bez prolaska kroz crveno ide uslovno desno, (nedozvoljeno) polukružno pred raskrsnicom, desno. Gde je tu levo? :mrgreen:



Ma pusti, vidis da ne zna sta prica ;) nije spav'o ima dana ! :D

Meni zvuci kao da je skrenuo desno na uslov, a onda kad je kao skrenuo, zavrnuo u levo ostro, i produzio pravo,kuda je i hteo.

Dok ne vidim te snimke, ne verujem.
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Posted 27 June 2009 - 01:14 AM

AAAAAND THE WINNEEER OF 4 MAN TEAM CATEGORYYYY IIIIISS - laid back Team RANS !!!! =D> =D> =D> =D>

3021.3 miles completed at 06/26/2009 20:50 20.46 mph ukupna prosecna brzina 6 dana 3 sata i 40 minuta

Drugoplasirani Team Strong Heart se ocekuje prema predikciji oko 7 sati kasnije !!!!!

Mislim da rezultati govore sve ;) i nista ne moram da dodajem na temu lezeci/nelezeci :mrgreen:
osim mozda samo to da su bicikli tima RANS najjeftiniji i najtezi od svih na trci ;) a opet =D>
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Posted 27 June 2009 - 01:17 AM

AAAAAND THE WINNEEER OF 4 MAN TEAM CATEGORYYYY IIIIISS - laid back Team RANS !!!! =D> =D> =D> =D>

3021.3 miles completed at 06/26/2009 20:50 20.46 mph ukupna prosecna brzina 6 dana 3 sata i 40 minuta

Drugoplasirani Team Strong Heart se ocekuje prema predikciji oko 7 sati kasnije !!!!!

Mislim da rezultati govore sve ;) i nista ne moram da dodajem na temu lezeci/nelezeci :mrgreen:
osim mozda samo to da su bicikli tima RANS najjeftiniji i najtezi od svih na trci ;) a opet =D>


Evo da dodam zanimljiv dijagram za poredjenje brzina timova u diviziji 4 person, koji je pravio jedan lezeci kolega od razultata sa prolaznih tacaka.

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Posted 28 June 2009 - 01:51 AM

Obecani video snimak od Jureta, pod radnim naslovom "Although the lights are still red, mere rules do not apply to us" :D

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Naravno obavezno "stivo" svakog ozbiljnog bicikliste ;)
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Posted 25 September 2010 - 05:11 PM

Preminuo Jure Robic,petostruki pobednik Race Across America.Vraćajuće se sa treninga na jednom spustu frontalno se sudario sa automobilom,poginuo na licu mesta.Drži i rekord sa 22.28km/h prosekom na 4834km.
Dva put pobedio i na trci Le Tour Direct.Imao 45 godina.Rest in Peace. :cry:
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Posted 25 September 2010 - 05:17 PM

neverovatno :| pomenuli smo i ovde :| viewtopic.php?f=5&t=385&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=660#p72537
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